Comments on: No justice for victims of police brutality

By: aroha

aroha — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 07:22:31 +0000

Police Violence is plainly not exceptable no matter the level of stress they are under. I fully support the mother of Rawiri Falwasser. In A sense that these kinds of things arent always publically displayed and yet it happens sooooooo often.The scenario were prisoner(we call it “act a fool”)and police need 5-6 officers to calm the situation then it end in severly hurting the prisoner because of STRESS never should be exceptable and all officers that commit such abuse should be never allowed to work with such authority again.

By: anthropologus

anthropologus — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:24:52 +0000

good point.
I haven’t said “no racism” in the criminal justice. I said that Rawiri Falwasser (of which the last name gives the indication of Western descendant) has committed a criminal act and not target because of his ethnicity. I also believe there was abuse from the police, but because he was Maori is speculation.

Steven Wallace was holding a machete and charged the police officer. Steven Wallace on doing so, committed a crime and become subject to punishment (however, not death). He died because of Police lack of proper training of which, is a directly consequence of a lack of need and updating with the emerging crime rates (funny enough, since Labour ascended to power). Liam Ashley died because his parents abused of the legal system to teach the boy a lesson (instead of home or a boot camp) and placed the individual under threat. Parents fault.

The reason why there’s a larger outcry from the white population rather than indigenous is quite simple (Daphna as an Anthropologist could answer that).. is called Unity. The Indigenous population is not united under the same cause if there’s no beneficial gain of the majority. sad but realistic.

The Pakeha side is united against crime not because they are Pakeha but because they are Kiwis in general of which include different ethnical groups. The Maori of the XXI century decided that is beneficial to distinguish themselves of the Kiwi label for specific reasons of gains. To remove the ethnical argument of the picture, we can find the same power of outcry and action among Hindi and Asian communities. They are united under the same ideal (of eliminating violence) and no other beneficial gain. No accusations towards the Police for these groups… Ask yourself… why?

Q: Is the Police Racist? No. But there are racist individuals within the corporation, both Maori or Pakeha.

If the article is about Police violence… Well done. If it is about “another minority” target, I disagree but valuate your opinion… Even if not, consistent.

By: Tim B

Tim B — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:55:42 +0000

But if there is no racism in the criminal justice system, how do you explain the mass outcry over the death of Liam Ashley (from a respectable white middle class North Shore family) in the back of a prison van in 2006, which led to calls for the resignation of the Minister of Corrections, while the *deliberate* shooting of Steven Wallace in Waitara in 2000 and the now the beating in custody of Rewi Falwasser both barely seem to raise an eyelid?

By: anthropologus

anthropologus — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:26:39 +0000

with all respect, Mental Breakdown is not an acceptable psychological understanding and should not be tolerated regardless of reason. If the issue is Police brutality, I am 100% with you but I won’t buy the poor and sick “minority” discrimination argument.

The man commited a criminal action and has been overdone by stressed policemen. Both sides were wrong.

Police (and not cops) are necessary for the safety of the common good. Crimes are not tolerated.